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NOV’ 5, 1946. ¢ M.~FLE1scHER ErAI. 2,410,577 V PICTURE oR FILM TIMER Filed Oct. 16, 1943 2 Sheets-Sheet‘l E nel@ vll-"lll: MMIII. i HA MmwAFxF.0. FR mumm? ,LD, Nav. 5, 1946. AM. FLEISCHER Erm. `PICTURE OR FILM TIMER i l 2 Sheets-Sheet 2 ~ ‘D FIG’ 5’ . MAX FLEISCHER Y B . Filed Oct. 16, v1943 d' jC 2,410,577 - Y@ . t ¿GH-'Folio M` MAST, ¿handys _ Patented Nov. 5, 1946 2,410,577 UNITEDl STATES PATENT OFFICE 2,410,577 PICTURE 0R FILM TIMER MaxFleischer and Giüord M. Mast, Detroit, Mich. Application October 16, 1943, Serial No. 506,601 3 Claims. (Cl. 116-114) 1 2 This invention relates to improvements in in high-frequency notes coming from a record to dicating means adapted to be attached to the casing of a phonograph or the like and operatively associated with the sound producing record thereof to give a striking visible indication of the appropriate times to actuate a complemental Picture projecting apparatus so that there will be concomitant descriptive and portrayal of ob call for a picture or change of picture, which mars the continuity of the desired entertainment or instruction intended to be given by the con `ioint use of talking and picture machines; the sound, such as the voice of a commentator, may be permitted to íiow without interruption from scene to scene since the indications or’ signals jects reproduced in the records of the phono do not form part of the record. This character graph, a special indicating means being provided 10 istie of the machine also simplifies recording of for each recording and complemental slide film. the record since careful calculation of the tim It has heretofore been attempted to couple-up ing in advance of recording in order to determine a phonograph with a picture projecting appa the exact position at which the voice, music, or ratus whereby the latter is operated in attempted sounds must cease in favor of the signa1 record synchronization with the phonograph but our ing may be avoided. improvement relates more particularly to a Another particular object of the machine is to phonograph used in connection with a pictorial provide a timing device Iwhich is extremely simple or other display machine operated manually and ,to use, requires no extra motive power than ex Where appropriate indications must be imparted ists in the phonograph, and can be produced at by the operation of the ‘record of the phono very low cost. graph to guide or tell the operator exactly when Other features of novelty and details of parts to actuate the picture projecting apparatus to and combinations thereof Will be understood from exhibit the appropriate picture or illustration. the speciñc description hereinafter contained An object of the invention is to provide an em When read in connection with the accompanying bodiment of the foregoing idea which will be 25 drawings forming part hereof and wherein the simple in construction and readily applied and preferred embodiment of the invention is illus adjusted to the cabinet or other fixture of an or trated. dinary or preferred type of phonograph and In the drawings: ' which will Isuspend an indicator and actuating Figure 1 is a top view of a portion of a phono means therefor in a plane above the ordinary 30 graph lshowing particularly the motor driven rec record plane and in operative association with ord thereon, with our improved indicator super a part at the axis of the record disc whereby to posed thereabove in operable association with the receive an actuation (in this instance a pro driven centering pin or post of the machine. gressive circular movement) therefrom. Fig. 2 is a side elevation of the same. Another object of the invention is to provide 35 Fig. 3 is an enlarged view to better show por the immediate indicating element of the device tions illustrated in Fig. l. in the form of a disc having a number of con Fig. 4 is a vertical sectional View on the line centrically arranged spots or the like-indicative of places intended to be illustrated or Where il lustrations should be changed, cooperatively re lated to a movable pointer progressively actuat ed as the phonograph record is rotated, to reg 4-4 of Fig. 3; and Figs. 5 and 6 are detail views. 40 Referring more particularly to the drawings, wherein like reference letters designate corre sponding parts in all of the views, A represents ister definitely with the respective spots-pref a part of the cabinet of an ordinary phonograph erably aligned through a sight opening-to or equivalent talking machine or apparatus strikingly indicate to the operator that an actu 45 within which is the customary motor (not shown) ation of the picture projecting machine should for rotating the turntable B for supporting the take place to coincide with the description, lec ordinary record disc C, centered in this instance ture, song, or other matter imparted by sound upon a post of pin D, having a pivoted detent d adapted to occupy a horizontal position offset The particular object and advantage of our 50 from the post D or vertical position in line with machine, is that it silently indicates to the oper the post D for purposes as will appear. from the phonograph. ator when the picture projecting apparatus E is an end wall of the cabinet A to which my should be operated to exhibit a picture or ñlm, improved attachment, now to be specially re which entirely dispenses with the common ob ferred to, is conveniently secured. An angle two jection to sound indications such as gongs or 55 part bracket constitutes the support for the in 2,410,577 4 3 underlying the turntable E and projecting hori zontally outwardly to near the peripheral edge that the series may be augmented and the other parts formed to correspond therewith as neces sity may require. It remains to describe how the pointer shifts radially of the disc from one circular series of spots to the next outer series as the phonograph of the record C. The part G overlies the hori zontal portion of the angle bracket F and is in pointed out. terñtted and interlocked therewith by having a tongue f on the lbracket F extended upwardly P represents the pointer referred to, arranged to slide longitudinally of the sight opening or slot dicating mechanism. F is one part oi the sup port and G the other part, the part F' having a vertical leg extending parallel to and against the wall E of the cabinet and a horizontal portion record is played, and such means will now be through a lslot g in the part G and a thumb nut N and register with a spot M therebelow as the f’ passing through a slot f2 in the part F and hav ing threaded engagement with the part G. This affords means for longitudinal adjustment oi" these two parts of the angle bracket F--G. The upright or vertical portion of the bracket F is ñrmly anchored to the wall E of the cabinet by thumb screws e passing through the bracket and disc L rotates, this pointer depending somewhat wall E and having threaded engagement as at e’ with a metal plate H secured by screws h to the wall E on the inner 'side thereof. into the slot to more closely approach the disc. The pointer is carried by, and preferably inte gral with, a sleeve Q of oblong cross-section adapted to surround and have sliding engage ment with the horizontal portion n that has the sight opening N and is moved longitudinally of said portion n in an outward direction as the disc L rotates to correspondingly effect registra tion of the pointer with the successively out The outer end of the part G, of the bracket just described, at a point well beyond the pe~ riphery of the disc C, is bent upwardly a sub wardly arranged series of spots or dots M as fol stantial distance as at ¿i and has a return~bend q, is a horizontal extension R carrying on its portion J disposed parallel to the interengaging under surface, and suspended above the disc L, horizontal portions of the brackets F-»G and also parallel to the phonograph record or disc a series of ñns S spaced apart to provide ways therebetween through which a shifting stud or E and its 'support B, the part J being, however, pin T, projecting upwardly from the disc L, may lows. Also integral with the sleeve Q, and pref erably offset somewhat upwardly therefrom as at spaced a substantial distance above the disc B 3 O pass and engage the fin placed in the path of circular passage oi" said stud. The hns S are and its record disc C thereon. At the inner end arranged in parallel relationship and they are of the member or arm J is a vertically disposed disposed at an inclination to the longitudinal pivot K and mounted for rotary movement axis oi“ the extension plate or member R that thereon, upon a washer k, is my indicator' disc carries the iin's or, stated in another way, the L which may be made of any suitable material, íins are arranged to intersect the circular path conveniently cardboard, metal, or a combination of movement of the stud or pin T so that said of the two. It has been found in practice that pin while permitted to enter the space between a. durable structure comprising a metal under a pair of dns must, however, come into Contact lying di'sc on which there is a paper facing, is satisfactory. On the top of this disc, and dis fi i) with the inclined ñn crossing said path of travel of the stud whereby the movement of the stud posed therearound at distances determined by will, by engagement with the 1in, shove the sleeve the appropriate times for illustrations of matter Q and pointer carried thereby outwardly from played on the record C, are a multitude of spots one position, in registration with a 'series of spots M, which spots are adapted to respectively reg or dots M to an advanced position in registration ister with a sight opening N in the horizontal . With the succeeding outwardly located series of portion n of a 'supporting bracket having a verti said spots or dots; then as the disc L continues cal portion n’ secured against the face of the to rotate the pin or stud T will engage the next upturn y', of the bracket part G. The parts inwardly located iin S to still `.Further push the are secured together by screws or bolts n2. The disc L and, of course, the spots M borne thereby, Si) pointer to its outermost position. As previously suggested, the three concentri is rotated slowly through the medium of having cally arranged circular series of spots or dots its edge, entirely cii‘curnferentially thereof, will ordinarily be sufficient to embrace the re formed with a continuous series of ratchet teeth quirements or the phonograph record for which O, engaged by the detent d on the record post D, when said detent is in a horizontal position and .~, the disc L is provided as a complement, and without any sound or disturbance an operator is rotated under the actuation ci the moto-r which keeping his eye on the pointer and associated drives the post and record turntable B. The de sight opening will know instantly upon registra tent d is pivoted in a slotted end of the post D and tion of the pointer with a dot or spot that the is frictionally held in either its horizontal or ver picture apparatus should be operated to display tical position, it being understood that it will be a picture equivalent co-incidently with the de vertically disposed when it is desired to remove scriptive or other matter emanating from the or place a record over the post D with reference sound record. to the turntable B, but that when the timing While we have herein disclosed a practical mechanism for indicating the actuation of the and preferred embodiment of the invention it picture machine is to be used the detent will, of will be understood that various changes in the course, be in a horizontal position. construction and arrangement ci parts of the It will be understood that the disc L will be device shown may be resorted to without de rotated very slowly with reference to the rota parting from the spirit of the invention as em tion of the phonograph record disc and owing to the rapidity of travel of the reproducing needle 70 braced within the hereto appended claims. For instance, while we have disclosed the device as over the record disc and the relative infrequent especially useful in connection with strikingly illustrating or picturing required, it is found that indicating the time for manually controlling or by a view of the concentrically arranged spots operating a pictorial apparatus, as a complement M near the outer edge of the disc L will be all that is usually required, but it will be understood 75 to a sound reproducing apparatus it will be ap 2,410,577 6 parent to persons skilled in the art that the principle of the machine, as illustrated, may be carried out in instances Where provision is made for automatically actuating thel picture record, the said disc bearing spots in line in machine as through electrical impulses or trans the subject matter given off lby said sound pro ducing record, a sight opening facilitating ob mission. ~ We claim: separate series, the successive spots in each series indicative of time for actuation of a picture projecting machine to be in consonance with servation of said spots as the disc rotates, an 1. The combination with a sound producing automatically propelled pointer at said sight apparatus having means for supporting and op opening adapted to be adjusted therealong to erating a sound producing record of a given 10 progressive series of spots, in combination with subject, of an indicator to guide the showing of means for rotating the disc comprising a toothed complemental pictorial representations devoted peripheral portion and a rotatable detent mount to said subject comprising a disc mounted for ed to be rotated axially of a rotatable sound pro rotation with said sound producing record, said ducing record. disc bearing concentrically arranged series of 15 3. The combination with an apparatus of the spots the successive spots in each series indica character described having means for supporting tive of time for actuation of a picture project and operating a sound producing record and the ing machine to visually portray matter in con sound producing record devoted to a given sub sonance with the subject matter given 01T by ject, of an indicator to guide the showing of said sound producing record, a movable pointer, 20 co‘mplemental pictorial representations devoted and means actuated by the movement of said to said subject, comprising a disc mounted in disc to propel the pointer to positions to register superposed parallel relation to the sound pro with said spots, said last-mentioned means in ducing record and operatively connected for ro cluding parallel diagonally disposed fins on the tation therewith, said disc bearing concentrical pointer and a cooperating lug on the disc, the 25 ly arranged series of spots, the successive spots in ñns crossing the path of movement of the pin each series indicative of time for actuation of With the disc whereby to be engaged by the lug a picture projecting machine to visually portray and pushed with the pointer in a radial direction from an inner series of spots to an outer series matter in consonance with the subject matter given off by said sound producing record, a of the same. 30 movable pointer, and means actuated by the 2. A timer for complemental pictorial repre movement of said disc to propel the pointer to sentation of matter given on' by a sound pro position to register with the spots of the suc cessive series. ducing record, comprising supporting means for attachment to a phonograph or the like, a disc rotatably mounted on the support to occupy a 35 horizontal position parallel to a sound producing MAX FLEISCHER. GIFFORD M. MAST.