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Victorian School system - The Bridge

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Education in Victoria
The Bridge
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
A bridge takes you from where you are now to
where you want to be.
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
This is the school
path for most
students who grow
up in Victoria.
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Finish Primary School
Grade 6 – Age 11
Grade 5 - Age 10
Grade 4 – Age 9
In English
Grade 3 – Age 8
Grade 2 – Age 7
Grade 1 – Age 6
Prep – Age 5
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
Start Primary School
Finish Secondary College/High School
Year 12
Year 11
Year 10
In English
Year 9
Year 8
Year 7
Start Secondary / HighWinSchool
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So, Prep to Year 12 for most students who grow up in
Australia looks like this:
Finish
Year 12
Year 11
Year 10
Year 9
Year 8
Year 7
In English
Year 6
Year 5
Year 4
Year 3
Year 2
Year 1
Prep
Start
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
For some people who have not
grown up in Australia the path is
different.
Maybe it’s like this:
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
Finish School
Problems in Your Country
Grade 3 – Age 8
Grade 2 – Age 7
Not in English
Grade 1 – Age 6
Prep – Age 5
Start Primary School
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
Or
Maybe it’s like this:
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
In a Refugee Camp
Year 10
Year 9
Year 8
Year 7
Year 6
Year 5
Year 4
Year 3
Year 2
Year 1
Prep
In big classes
Often disrupted
because of
problems
With very few books
and other resources
Not in English
Or very little English
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
Or perhaps
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
Finish School
Stop studying
Year 5
Stop studying for 4 months
Year 4
Stop studying for 2 months
Not in English
Year 3
Stop studying for 9 months
Year 2
Stop studying for 6 months
Year 1
Or very little
English
Start School
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Or
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
Come to Australia for family re-union or
on a Business Migration Visa
Come to Australia
Year 11
Year 10
Year 9
Year 8
Year 7
Year 6
Year 5
Year 4
Year 3
Year 2
Year 1
Prep
Not in English
In your country
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Let’s Compare
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
17 Year old Student Growing
up in Australia
Finish
Year 12
Year 11
Year 10
Year 9
Year 8
Year 7
Year 6
Year 5
Year 4
Year 3
Year 2
Year 1
Prep
Start
17 Year old Student with
Disrupted Schooling and
New to Australia
What if this student
Wants to
Study at
High School?
In English
Not in English
Finish
Grade 3 – Age 8
Grade 2 – Age 7
Grade 1 – Age 6
Prep – Age 5
Start
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17 Year old Student Growing
up in Australia
17 Year old Student with
Disrupted Schooling and
New to Australia
Finish
???
Year 12
Year 11
Year 10
Year 9
Year 8
Year 7
Year 6
Year 5
Year 4
Year 3
Year 2
Year 1
Prep
Start
Or maybe
Finish
Grade 3 – Age 8
Grade 2 – Age 7
Grade 1 – Age 6
Prep – Age 5
Start
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What’s the
Answer???
How can you catch up
if you have missed a lot
of school?
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
A BRIDGE is needed to
help you go from where
you are now to where you
want to be.
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
Some high schools have
BRIDGING COURSES which
help students improve their
English and Math skills.
– e.g. Sunshine College- Step-up
Program
Debney Park SC – Foundation
VCAL
You should study in such
courses for at least one year.
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
If you are an older student who
wants to study in High School
and then do VCE (Years 11 and
12) you may have to repeat
Year 10.
I understand.
If you want to
succeed, you
will need to
repeat Year 10
Even after that, VCE may
be too difficult.
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
Some schools also offer 3 Year VCE (Years
11 and 12). This is a very good way for some
students to complete their VCE.
Yes, we can think about that
too. Or maybe you can do some
Year 10 subjects and one or
two year 11 subjects.
What about a 3 year VCE.
Do you think I could try
that?
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
Many Secondary Colleges do
NOT accept 17 year old students
At this school we do
into Year 10.
not enrol 17 year
I want to study
Year 10 at
I’m 17
your High
School
How
are
you?
olds
inold
Year
10.
You
will have more
success at TAFE.
Therefore, don’t be surprised or upset if the person helping
you to find a school tells you that the High School you want
to go to has said �No’.
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
After Year 10 the school may suggest that you
do VCAL, not VCE.
Listen to your teachers.
VCE is not the right course for everyone.
VCAL means VICTORIAN CERTIFICATE OF
APPLIED LEARNING.
It helps students study for many of the
practical and important jobs that Australia
needs people for.
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
TAFE has many suitable programs
for older students – i.e. for ages
16, 17 or 18.
TAFE means TECHNICAL AND
FURTHER EDUCATION.
First, the TAFE course will help
After that, there
improve your English skills. For
are many
example, ESL Certificates 1, 2, 3
different
and 4.
courses you can
For older students with
do.
disrupted schooling, TAFE is
often better.
There are more choices and more
opportunities to succeed at TAFE.
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
If you are an older student who
has come to Australia recently to
join your family,
OR
457
if you are an older student
who has come to Australia
on a Business Visa (e.g.
457 Visa),
TAFE is often better, especially if you
don’t have very good English.
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
Okay, so maybe you
have a problem with
TAFE!!
Let’s look at some
of these problems.
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
Question 1:
Is TAFE only for old
people?
Answer:
No, many students
start TAFE at 16 or
17.
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Question 2:
TAFE
Can I study
VCE (Years 11
and 12) at
TAFE?
Answer:
VCE
Did you know that you can
study VCE more cheaply at TAFE
than you
can at a High School?
Yes you can.
And VCAL too.
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Question 3:
I want to wear a
uniform. Do students
wear a uniform at
TAFE?
Answer:
SORRY!!!
There is no uniform at TAFE.
You need to forget about
uniform and think about your
REAL education and your
FUTURE.
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
Question 4:
Is it true that TAFE is just
a place to find you a job?
My friends say it’s not a
real school.
TAFE
Answer:
NO, that’s not true. TAFE is a
real school just like High
School or University. It teaches
many different things,
TAFE
as well as training you for a good job.
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
Did you know that many
students who study at
University in Australia
cannot find jobs after they
graduate?
It’s true!
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Question 5:
Can I still go to
University one day
if I start at TAFE?
Answer:
Yes you can.
It’s often easier to
get into a
University from a
TAFE course than
it is from a High
School.
Also, did you know that you
can transfer from TAFE to
many University courses
without an �enter’ score?
Did you know that Victoria University
is a TAFE and a University?
IT IS!!
TAFE
And you can also
get CREDITS for
what you have
studied at TAFE.
You can!
University
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
Question 6:
I have heard that TAFE
is expensive. Is this
true?
Answer:
Some courses are
expensive, BUT, if you
have a HEALTH CARE
CARD, there are many
courses which are NOT
EXPENSIVE.
And don’t forget University is
REALLY EXPENSIVE!!!
Even if you don’t have a
Health Care Card, there
are often ways of
studying English and
other courses cheaply at
TAFE. For example, �fee
waivers’. Ask those who
are helping you to enrol
at TAFE about �fee
waivers’.
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
Also, think about this:
Do you REALLY want to sit in a High School classroom
with students who are MUCH younger than you – students
who may behave in a really silly and childish way???
I can’t get my work done
with all these silly young
students in the class!!!
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
Think about it.
Ask yourself
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Do I want to climb
the mountain?
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Or will I use the
BRIDGE???
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Think about it!
It’s up to you!!
and
GOOD
LUCK!!!
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
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